Monday, December 21, 2009

Nidal Hasan and the FN Herstal 7.5

John R. Houk
December 21, 2009

Thomas Wells asks some good questions about Nidal Hasan and the Ft. Hood Massacre. He probably is responding to the last time I posted on this subject: “Congressman: Why is Obama stifling Hasan investigation?

JRH 12/21/09
Comment by: Thomas Wells
Sent: 12/20/2009 7:39 PM

Did Maj. Hasan use the illegal armor piercing type of bullets, or the regular kind that can be bought at a store? The significance of this is that if he did have illegal armor piercing rounds, where did he get them from? Are people in the Army involved in supplying him with armor piercing rounds; either by negligent procedures or as accomplices, since military units have access to this type of ammo? If he had the regular type of ammo that can be purchased over the counter, then why not let our troops buy some ammo and guns to put it in and carry them on base, as they can carry them when they are not on the base?


It is difficult to retrieve the information from my Google efforts to answer Mr. Wells’ question. Evidently the specifics about Nidal Hasan’s ammunition haven’t been readily made public. Media research seems to come down on the side that the military grade of ammunition was unavailable to Hasan.

The gun control crowd insinuates it is possible because Mexican drug lords utilize the same FN Herstal 5.7 with armor piercing ammo against American law enforcement.

The gun rights crowd insists it would have been too difficult for Hasan to purchase the armor piercing ammunition and point to a report that Hasan indeed came back to the “Guns Galore” store later to buy the legal civilian version of the FN 5.7 ammunition.

Wells’ last question about allowing military personnel to carry armor piercing weapons like civilians with weapons permits is an interesting one. The answer is simple though. Gun control nuts represented most by the Democratic Party have made military bases gun free zones.

Imagine that: a fully operation military facility with weapons available yet since no one can carry weapons on base a lone Islamic terrorist can murder unarmed military personnel in large numbers. Thank you President Clinton.

FN Herstal 5.7 jpg

JRH 12/21/09


  1. Any cartridge can be made armor piercing by simply loading it with a bullet with steel integrated into the bullet, usually a shaft through the center. All civilian ammunition is produced with a lead core and jackets of varying materials and configurations. A standard lead bullet will never be armor piercing unless specifically loaded with a bullet containing steel. You cannot blame a gun manufacturer for a person gaining access to an illegal product made byanother company (bullet manufactuer) or controlled by another entity (military armory). This is the same bullshit that got the Winchester Black Talon ammo banned. Fuck off with your neocon propaganda.

    1. Ok Dickster. I am a pro-gun Second Amendment kind of guy. I am a bit uncertain of where your hostility is coming from. The only I was implying in this post is if the Base was not a gun free zone Islamic terrorist Nidal Hassan would have been shot before he killed people.