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Thursday, April 11, 2019

Julian Assange -- A Good End to America's Enemy



I have looked on Julian Assange’s arrest today from Ecuadorian Embassy in London with mixed feelings. In one case Assange via Wikileaks exposed Classified and sensitive information related to U.S. National Security. On the other hand Assange’s release of hacked (or perhaps purloined) Crooked Hillary campaign emails might just contribute to exposing some of worst treasonous acts among American leadership since Benedict Arnold and Aaron Burr.

Justin Smith examines the Wikileaks Classified material dump with quite correct anger at America’s betrayal.

Julian Assange 4/11/19 arrested Ecuadorian Embassy London

JRH 4/11/19
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Julian Assange -- A Good End to America's Enemy

By Justin O. Smith
Sent 4/11/2019 3:13 PM

If you think you’re having a rough morning . . . at least you’re not Julian Assange.

“Police entered the Ecuadorian embassy in London Thursday morning, arresting Assange and bringing the Wikileaks founder’s seven-year stint there to a dramatic close,” reports CNN [CNN has since updated original quote. Here is the same quote from wfsb.com – Eyewitness News 3 Hartford CT].

“Metropolitan Police said in a statement that he was ‘further arrested’ on his arrival at a London police station on behalf of United States authorities, who have issued an extradition warrant.

“Officers made the move after Ecuador withdrew Assange’s asylum and invited authorities into the embassy, citing the Australian’s bad behavior.”

Some people see Julian Assange as some sort of "hero" for joining Bradley Manning in espionage and the release of Department of Defense documents --- thousands of documents -- THAT COST THE LIVES OF AMERICANS SERVING OVERSEAS.

Even if Manning's and Assange's criminal hacking and espionage actions didn't result in anyone's death, that does not render them forgivable or harmless. If one sets his car in neutral and lets it glide down a hill toward a playground as he walks away in the other direction, he isn't blameless by any stretch of logic simply because no one was killed. Moreover, Manning violated several tenets of the basic military oath, such as his vow to adhere to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which governs the handling of classified information. Think of all those military folks you have ever known, who you may have served with yourself, and consider how our good and decent young men and women, all military personnel, could have been -- or actually were -- exposed by Manning and Assange. Most patriots will find themselves grow angry as they reflect on these actions and those institutions that celebrate Manning's and Assange's criminal actions as "whistleblowing".

Consider if you published something controversial on the Internet and started getting death threats. How would you like being “doxed”? In other words, what would your reaction be if someone who didn’t like you tweeted out to the world your home address? And your phone number? And your photo? And photos of your children? And the address of their school? And information about when you left the house each day, the license-plate number of your car, and the location where it was parked?

Would you call someone who published this information a “whistleblower”? Let’s say the same person simultaneously published accurate information about wrongdoing by your neighbors or colleagues. Would that make you feel any better?

Picture such an information dump on a massive scale. That’s roughly what then-Bradley Manning did when he threw hundreds of thousands of secret military and diplomatic documents into the public square. Manning made no effort to filter out information that didn’t show evidence of wrongdoing. He indiscriminately stole as many classified documents as he dared and sent them off for publication on the Internet.

Julian Assange of WikiLeaks. Remember him? The one you blame for working with the Russians to subvert democracy? He doesn’t necessarily have America’s best interests at heart, does he? He never did. Assange an enemy of democracy not just for publishing stolen political gossip, but for aiding and enabling Manning's espionage against the United States, in what far too many call an act of a "whistleblower"; Manning helped Assange publish far more sensitive, far more important, indeed life-endangering material? Among the documents Manning turned over to Assange were war logs that contained the names of hundreds of civilians who cooperated with U.S. forces. Assange threw all caution to the wind and indiscriminately published those logs en masse, without redacting the names of civilians involved, placing those fighting for freedom in their countries in great peril.

It is most telling that Assange's first guest on his talk show on Kremlin-funded Russia Today was Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

Whether or not Americans received some other disturbing news that revealed government misconduct is beside the point. What he did was still a crime against America, in more regards than any that were "beneficial" to America.

Just as Americans have a wealth of information each individual keeps private, like Social Security numbers or bank account numbers or certain unknown events that occurred in their lives that revive hurtful memories and pain -- information they wouldn't want just anyone to have -- there is an abundance of information in government files that the average U.S. citizen doesn't have any real right to view, except and until they have gone through proper channels and/or a court process or FOIA requests. We have agreed to such channels, as citizens, to certain processes and oversights in matters of government.

There are men and women in place to provide oversight over government. And the problems we find too often today have resulted when those providing the oversight we less than trustworthy. If these people were immoral and untrustworthy, one doesn't simply throw open the vault and release everything, especially when it may reveal CIA operatives in foreign countries, resulting in their murders, or troop positions and capabilities, resulting in unnecessary U.S. casualties.

The failure is with Us as a society, in that so many men and women elected today are immoral and untrustworthy and they appoint people to positions of similar character. Nothing will change in the halls of government until things change in America and Her people return to the God and the principles that founded America.

Governments need to keep secrets, too. We can argue about just how many secrets it should keep, and there’s a strong argument that the U.S. government over-classifies a lot of information that could be released to the public without harm. But besides all the aspects of national security that need to be kept secret — where our forces are, what they’re vulnerable to, what we know about hostile states and terrorist groups, what we don’t know, the identities of agents, case officers, and covert operators, and so on — our government needs to be able to assess and evaluate these issues in secrecy. The public also needs to be informed of at least the general contours of the national-security issues that concern the government, which is why the House and Senate intelligence committees usually hold both public and private hearings.

Countries also need to be able to communicate with each other discreetly. Sometimes a foreign government will privately agree with a U.S. policy and be willing to cooperate but cannot acknowledge their stance publicly because of preexisting public attitudes. For example, in 2010, the United States wanted to launch drone strikes against operatives of al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula. Because allowing U.S. airstrikes on Yemeni soil would irritate the Yemeni people, president Ali Abdullah Saleh told General David Petraeus, “We’ll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours.” This was one of the secrets revealed in the diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks. The choice to reveal that conversation indicates that WikiLeaks finds the secrecy about the American bombing efforts more troubling that what those al-Qaeda members were doing.

Those of us who paid attention figured out early on that Julian Assange always seemed more interested in releasing information that harmed United States vital interests and national security than he was in helping the American people uncover the Traitors in their midst. Assange always seemed particularly angry with the American and Western European governments, and never all that bothered by the world’s indisputably brutal and despotic regimes, in Russia, Iran, Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela and Syria.

Some of us never discovered a newfound appreciation for Assange once he started leaking information from the DNC and John Podesta, and saw the same guy we always did -- as a SPY and an ENEMY to America.

Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were executed in 1953 on slim evidence and for a whole lot less than the crimes committed by Julian Assange. Assange should be extradited to the U.S. and charged, prosecuted and executed.

By Justin O Smith

ADDENDUM: The Taliban and Al Qaeda both poured over these documents, sorting and sifting, to discover who was working with the U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Even more troubling, it placed U.S. tactics, strategic plans and military strength and positions all in the hands of the enemy.
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Edited by John R. Houk
Text enclosed by brackets and source links are by the Editor.

© Justin O. Smith


Sunday, June 30, 2013

Tony Newbill Emails 6/17/13 to 6/28/13

NWO Obama Fascism and Sheeple

In this section of Tony Newbill email topics range from the IRS as a Leftist weapon against Conservatives, the U.N. Agenda 21 and Whistleblowers. It is my opinion a Whistleblower exposes information that is harmful to the public health or harmful to America’s constitutional Bill of Rights. This series of emails deal with Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and Karen Hudes.

JRH 6/30/13
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Day After Obama Meets Treasury, Tea Party Targeting Begins

Sent: 6/17/2013 10:09 PM


This is rather telling.

Check it out:

Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?

THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR:

“For me, it’s about collaboration. — National Treasury Employees Union President Colleen Kelley on the relationship between the anti-Tea Party IRS union and the Obama White House

Is President Obama directly implicated in the IRS scandal?

Is the White House Visitors Log the trail to the smoking gun?

The stunning questions are raised by the following set of new facts.
March 31, 2010.

According to the White House Visitors Log, provided here in searchable form by U.S. News and World Report, the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.

The White House lists the IRS union leader’s visit this way:

Kelley, Colleen Potus 03/31/2010 12:30

In White House language, “POTUS” stands for “President of the United States.”

The very next day after her White House meeting with the President, according to the Treasury Department’s Inspector General’s Report, IRS employees — the same employees who belong to the NTEU — set to work in earnest targeting the Tea Party and conservative groups around America. The IG report wrote it up this way:

April 1-2, 2010: The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed.

In short: the very day after the president of the quite publicly anti-Tea Party labor union — the union for IRS employees — met with President Obama, the manager of the IRS “Determinations Unit Program agreed” to open a “Sensitive Case report on the Tea party cases.” As stated by the IG report.


The NTEU is the 150,000 member union that represents IRS employees along with 30 other separate government agencies. Kelley herself is a 14-year IRS veteran agent. The union’s PAC endorsed President Obama in both 2008 and 2012, and gave hundreds of thousands of dollars in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles to anti-Tea Party candidates.

Putting IRS employees in the position of actively financing anti-Tea Party candidates themselves, while in their official positions in the IRS blocking, auditing, or intimidating Tea Party and conservative groups around the country.

The IG report contained a timeline prepared by examining internal IRS e-mails. The IG report did not examine White House Visitor Logs, e-mails, or phone records relating to the relationship between the IRS union, the IRS, and the White House. (READ THE REST: Page 2 – Page 3 – Page 4  - Page 5 – Page 6 – Page 7 -  Page 8: Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun? By Jeffrey Lord; American Spectator; 5/20/13)
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How can Real Estate sustain Growth Recovery with this kind of Regulation…?

Sent: 6/21/2013 9:26 AM

How can Real Estate sustain Growth Recovery with this kind of Regulation which Stops Suburban Developments???

Obama Admin Plans To 'Force' Americans To Move Into Cities - "Redistributing" the Wealth


This does not look like a Capital Expansion policy that will lead to Higher Consumer Incomes overall , which will be need to see a Dow Jones growth indexing above current levels  with Real estate recovering to the driving level it once was. So what other Industries will be driving those fundamentals?   


[SlantRight Editor: Currently the above link leading to the homepage promoting the 2013 National Summit July 18-19. I am guessing after July 19 the front page might change.]

Building One America’s Second National Summit for Inclusive Suburbs and Sustainable Regions will involve local leaders and federal policy makers to seek bipartisan solutions to the unique but common challenges around housing, schools and infrastructure facing America’s metropolitan regions and its diverse middle-class suburbs. Participants will include local elected and grassroots leaders from America’s diverse middle class suburban towns and school districts, scholars and policy experts, members of the Obama Administration and Congress.

The summit will identify comprehensive solutions and build bipartisan support for meaningful action to stabilize and support inclusive middle-class communities and promote sustainable, economically competitive regions.

… (READ THE REST: Building One America - Organizing for Inclusion, Sustainability, and Economic Growth)

[SlantRight Editor: This sounds like the deviousness of building a better America through the evil of U.N. Agenda 21 to me.]
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Whistleblower Reveals World Bank Corruption

Sent: 6/28/2013 10:04 AM

Whistleblower Reveals World Bank Corruption in New Interview exposes the Currency War that’s Coming!!!!!

World Bank: Money Laundering Criminals | Interview with Whistleblower; pay attention to this name. She is Karen Hudes. Hudes' bio highlights her 21-year experience at the World Bank as Senior Legal Counsel:

She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non-Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.


Whistleblower Reveals World Bank Corruption in New Interview exposes the Currency War that’s Coming!!!!!


[SlantRight Editor: The below excerpt from the Activist Post places Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning on a favorable pedestal. This editor has always viewed Manning as a traitor. When Snowden first blew the whistle on NSA spying on ALL Americans’ privacy I hailed him as a hero; However after Snowden began sharing classified information with the Communist Chinese and probably the Russians, I began to view Snowden as a traitor.]

Whistleblowers continue to endure an increasing level of targeting and prosecution by an administration that touts its commitment to transparency. Despite this, many brave insiders continue to come forward to reveal the extent of corruption at the highest levels.
Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning are taking center stage at the moment. Yet, former World Bank Senior Legal Counsel, Karen Hudes, seen in the video below with Sean Stone, and a new video interview with RT's Abby Martin is revealing equally important information about corruption at the World Bank, and a tiny group pulling the strings of politicians and the media to suppress knowledge of their activities.

The World Bank is
already notorious
for its wide range of human rights violations, land-grab schemes, environmental destruction and economic attacks on sovereign nations and local communities. Hudes offers some additional details about what she asserts is one single group controlling world financial markets and media. She also offers names of people who were involved in blackmail surrounding a 2007 prostitution scandal. …

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Regardless of one's view of the World Bank as an institution, Hudes' information highlights that there are people who get into this type of work with good intentions, believing the propaganda they have been given. At the very least, her assertion that there is a network of insiders that will continue blowing the whistle about World Bank corruption bears watching. Lastly, it is worth noting her comments on the possibility of martial law in America and the steps being taken to avoid it. Time will tell.



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The Tea Party does not Deserve this Insanity

Sent: 6/28/2013 12:13 PM

This is Insane and we the people of the tea party do not deserve this Label!!!!! 

Juan Williams: Racist Tea Party Hates Immigrants

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© Tony Newbill
Edited by John R. Houk

Monday, June 10, 2013

I Consider Snowden a Hero-Whistleblower – For Now

Edward Snowden with quote on NSA
John R. Houk
© June 10, 2013
 
I have been a fan of the Patriot Act since its inception because of my disgust of Islamic terrorists in this post-9/11 era. I’m all for the quick search warrants from the FISA courts as managed through the Patriot Act to get terrorists before a plan is executed to murder Americans just because they are Americans.
 
Now that it has become apparent the Obama Administration has highly politicized the Executive Branch to the point that opponents of Obama’s agenda are being intimidated. Scandals such as the IRS, Benghazigate - information was purposefully warped including bad decisions on a rescue based on Obama reelection politics and secret policy decisions that Obama opponents would definitely oppose, the Fast and Furious scandal is another indication of stupid policy execution that cost lives rather than protect lives and now thanks to a whistleblower We the People are aware that the National Security Agency – SA HERE and HERE (NSA) snoops on ALL Americans via phone and Internet ending American’ treasured right of privacy from a Big Brother government (Conspiracy King David Icke has put together an in your face series of link summaries about the NSA and snooping).
 
Proponents of the NSA’s snooping on Americans say the Patriot gives that secret agency the authority to invade ALL privacy to catch terrorists. Was that what the Patriot Act designed to do? I thought the Patriot Act was designed at best to snoop on potential terrorist activity on a foreign and domestic basis? Are ALL Americans potential terrorists under the Patriot Act?
 
As long as the Patriot Act has a narrow agenda domestically I do not have a problem with it. On the other hand if the Patriot Act casts a wide net over every single American when the agenda should just be limited potential terrorists. Casting a wide net makes every single American a potential terrorists whether that person is Left, Center or Right. This makes the Patriot Act a political tool by whoever is in power in the White House.
 
Since I am considerably slanted toward the Right my two-cents is that the NSA scandal should be the last straw of credibility for the Obama Administration. The President that won his Office originally in 2008 on part of a platform that promised a transparent government is a liar. Obama is definitely not transparent. When Obama promised transparency the implication was that President Bush was not transparent to the American people. If Bush was not transparent by successfully protecting Americans from experiencing another 9/11-style attack, what does that mean about Obama’s transparency with scandal after scandal beginning with the moronic Foreign Policy of apologizing for America’s existence followed by dismantling Bush’s agreement with Poland to set-up an umbrella anti-missile system designed for Iran but struck fear in Russia? Forgive me if I forget a few scandals. Then Obama refused to reinforce the U.S. southern border with Mexico. Not only did this allow the flow illegal aliens who use American social services undeservedly but it also meant Mexican drug cartels had free access to American communities which also means Islamic terrorists that have partnered with drug cartels have free access. And of course there was Fast and Furious which the brilliant Obama Administration armed drug cartels under the dopey concept of tracking weapons – oops, Border Agents were killed by that transaction. Then the scandal dominoes began to fall quicker. Benghazigate is still in the cover-up stage. The Obama Administration targeting political opponents via the IRS is still in cover-up phase. AND of course there will be some cover-up goings-on about the NSA spying on Americans just because they believe they can.
 
Now I could change my mind on Edward Snowden as a hero whistleblower. What could change my mind? If Snowden is proven to have released classified information to harm the USA and/or to harm American troops and harm espionage activities abroad that typically benefit American National Interests then Snowden needs to be prosecuted as a traitor. For example Bradley Manning released classified information to Wikileaks that broadcast secret diplomatic cables from Embassies back to Washington. Those cables are secret because the writers of those cables need candor that might prove embarrassing if a foreign nation – especially and ally – discovers the classified content. Also thanks to Manning military personal have been compromised by exposing tactics that are used to defeat the enemy in battle. That makes Manning a traitor. If Snowden’s whistleblowing is in the same Manning-light then he is a traitor. HOWEVER, if Snowden’s whistleblowing was under the motivation to let Americans know their Constitutional Rights were being abused by the U.S. Government then Snowden is a hero and should be provided whistleblower immunity. If whistleblower immunity leads to the prosecution of those responsible who tried to hide behind the Patriot Act to break Constitutional rule of law then Edward Snowden should be given a Medal.
 
JRH 6/10/13
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Manning 2.0? Former NSA consultant behind massive US surveillance leak
 
Published time: June 09, 2013 23:15
Edited time: June 10, 2013 19:09
 
The source behind the leak of the top-secret NSA surveillance program – one of the most significant leaks in US history – has been revealed. A 29-year-old former CIA contractor Edward Snowden has fled to Hong Kong to avoid the fate of Bradley Manning.
 
 
The former technical assistant for the CIA and current employee of the defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, had asked the Guardian to reveal his identity and had never planned on hiding.
 
“I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he said in an interview.
 
Snowden predicts that the government will launch an investigation against him, however it was “a matter of principle” for him because he believes that the people should know how the government intrudes into their privacy. According to Snowden he acted out of a desire to protect "basic liberties" and to “send a message to government that people will not be intimidated.”
 
“I can't in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they're secretly building,” said the whistleblower.
 
Snowden leaked top-secret documents to The Guardian that included the existence of a US National Security Agency’s extensive spying program called PRISM (SlantRight Editor: Wikipedia on PRISM). The program was designed to collect information about digital communications allowing real-time online surveillance of US citizens.
 
According to the leaked information it gives “direct access” to files from the servers of major internet companies including Google and Facebook. The spying program was allegedly targeted to identify “folks who might engage in terrorism,” according to US president Barack Obama, who noted that American citizens  should be prepared to trade some of their freedoms for more safety.
 
Snowden said he is willingly sacrificing his very comfortable life with a family he loves and a stable career with a salary of around $200,000. "My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."
 
A former MI5 agent Annie Machon believes that Snowden will be the first of a series of modern whistleblowers who learnt from the terrible tragedy of the Bradley Manning case.
 
“The way he has run the whole exposure and disclosure of the crimes of the NSA and what they are doing against the American people and the rest of the world people has been very sophisticated. And I take heart from that. The fact that he has fled the USA, he is now in Hong Kong. The fact that he has been working with journalists of Glenn Greenwald's caliber,” Machon told RT. “I think it’s been very, very well done. I would call this Whistleblowing 2.0.”
 
The revelation of the whistleblowers identity comes after NSA filed a leak investigation report on Sunday to the Justice Department for it to launch a criminal case into the breach of security. The leaks also come amid US Army Private Bradley Manning’s trial on charges of transmitting classified materials connected with US military operations abroad to the WikiLeaks website. The Obama administration has aggressively pursued whistleblowers and Snowden expects the government to pursue him, however he states that he “is not afraid , because this is the choice I've made.” 
 
Whistleblower’s asylum of choice?
 
Until three weeks ago Snowden worked in a NSA office in Hawaii. There he made final preparations, copied the final set of documents he planned to leak and on May 20 boarded a flight to Hong Kong. At work he explained that he needed time off for treatment for epilepsy, a condition he was diagnosed with last year.
 
Snowden told the paper that he chose Hong Kong because it is the place that could and would “resist the dictates of the US government” and the city has “a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.”
 
He has been living in a hotel ever since and only left the room about three times during his entire stay as he is afraid of being spied on.
 
“I could be rendered by the CIA. I could have people come after me. Or any of the third-party partners. They work closely with a number of other nations. Or they could pay off the Triads. Any of their agents or assets,” he said. “We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week.”
 
“And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be.”
 
Snowden anticipates that he will be charged with breaking the Espionage Act and helping the enemies, “but that can be used against anyone who points out how massive and invasive the system has become" the whistleblower notes.
 
'Most CIA secrets are about people, not machines or systems’
Snowden was discharged from the army after a training accident, and got a job as a security guard at the NSA facility at the University of Maryland in College Park. His next role was with the CIA on IT security. In 2007 he was stationed in Geneva, Switzerland, where he maintained computer network security for the CIA.
 
“Much of what I saw in Geneva really disillusioned me about how my government functions and what its impact is in the world,” he told The Guardian. “I realized that I was part of something that was doing far more harm than good.”
 
Snowden said that in Switzerland the idea of leaking government information first came to mind, however he hoped that the election of Barack Obama in 2008 would reform the government’s policy.
 
“Most of the secrets the CIA has are about people, not machines and systems, so I didn't feel comfortable with disclosures that I thought could endanger anyone.”
 
Within the next three years he came to the conclusion that the NSA's surveillance would soon, ultimately, pose an “existential threat to democracy.” He chose to blow the whistle in spite of the risks involved.
 
“I don't  want to live in a world where there's no privacy and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity” the whistleblower told the paper.
 
“That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”
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Alleged US security officials said NSA leaker, journalist should be 'disappeared' – report
 
Published time: June 10, 2013 10:46
Edited time: June 10, 2013 19:09
 
A US editor has alleged he overheard security officials saying that the NSA leaker and the Guardian columnist who broke his story should be “disappeared.” Leaker Edward Snowden said that American spies often prefer silencing targets over due process.
 
 
“In Dulles UAL lounge listening to 4 US intel officials saying loudly leaker & reporter on #NSA stuff should be disappeared recorded a bit,” the Atlantic's Washington-based editor-at-large Steve Clemons tweeted on Sunday.

According to Clemons, four men sitting next to him at the airport “were loud. Almost bragging” while discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended hosted by the Intelligence and National Security Alliance. 
 
A US editor has alleged he overheard security officials saying that the NSA leaker and the Guardian columnist who broke his story should be “disappeared.” Leaker Edward Snowden said that American spies often prefer silencing targets over due process.
 
 
“In Dulles UAL lounge listening to 4 US intel officials saying loudly leaker & reporter on #NSA stuff should be disappeared recorded a bit,” the Atlantic's Washington-based editor-at-large Steve Clemons tweeted on Sunday.
 
 
In Dulles UAL lounge listening to 4 US intel officials saying loudly leaker & reporter on #NSA stuff should be disappeared recorded a bit (From the RT.com article but is missing the Twitter Picture and some links in Russian)
 
According to Clemons, four men sitting next to him at the airport “were loud. Almost bragging” while discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended hosted by the Intelligence and National Security Alliance.
 
Clemens said he was unsure of the men's identities or which agency they worked for, and told the Huffington Post that one of them was wearing “a white knit national counter-terrorism center shirt.” Clemons also recorded part of their conversation and snapped some photos, hoping that “people in that bz will know them.”

“But bad quality,” he noted about the quality of the photos. “Was a shock to me and wasn't prepared,” he wrote on Twitter. 
 
Clemons’ post immediately went viral, and his Twitter account was flooded with responses.
 
While some users were anxious to learn more details and hear the conversation, others lashed out at the blogger, saying he should have verified the information before posting it. 
 
 
@SCClemons @BillBindc I would not tweet if I was not sure, given the seriousness of the topic at this time. No? Credibility involved. (Ibid. as in above Twitter Quote)
 
Clemons said his view on the “disappear” part was that the statement was one of “bravado” and a “joke” – but a very “disturbing” one. He said he felt obligated to make it public because he thought the speakers were senior intelligence officers.
 
It was a “disconcerting set of comments offered in public,” Clemons explained.
 
 
@AlwaysThinkHow @msnbcDisrupt I think you ask legitimate question. I posted as these were senior intel folks joking about disappearances (Ibid)
 
The blogger judged the speakers’ profession from the “context” of their conversation, as well as from the shirt one of them was wearing.
 
Clemons is now working on an article detailing the conversation, but he said he will not publish it or the recording until he identifies the speakers and offers them a “fair chance to clarify” their remarks.
 
 
Still Seeking attendees at Intel & National Security Assn dinner Friday eve honoring fmr #NSA Dir Hayden and ch by fmr DNI Negroponte (Ibid)
 
Clemons has claimed that another person present at the time of the alleged conversation emailed him with the “same interpretation and concern” of the conversation.
 
Snowden on tweet: ‘I am a spy and that is how they talk’
 
The source behind the revelation of the top-secret NSA surveillance program, dubbed one of the most significant intelligence leaks in US history, was uncovered late last week. Snowden, a former CIA technical contractor and NSA consultant, had asked the Guardian to reveal his identity. He has fled to Hong Kong in a bid to escape retaliation by the US.

"The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards,” Snowden told the Guardian.

When asked for his reaction to the alleged comments that reporter Glenn Greenwald and the 29-year-old leaker himself should be "disappeared," Snowden
told the newspaper: "Someone responding to the story said 'real spies do not speak like that.' Well, I am a spy and that is how they talk. Whenever we had a debate in the office on how to handle crimes, they do not defend due process – they defend decisive action. They say it is better to kick someone out of a plane than let these people have a day in court. It is an authoritarian mindset in general."

Snowden earlier explained that he had sacrificed his life and $200,000-a-year career out of his desire to protect "basic liberties" in order to “send a message to government that people will not be intimidated.”

The whistleblower leaked top-secret documents that revealed the existence of the US National Security Agency’s extensive Internet spying program PRISM, which records digital communications and allows for real-time online surveillance of US citizens. PRISM apparently gives US intelligence agencies direct access to files stored on the servers of major Internet companies – including Google and Facebook – in order to identify and target potential terror suspects.
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I Consider Snowden a Hero-Whistleblower – For Now
John R. Houk
© June 10, 2013
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Manning 2.0? Former NSA consultant behind massive US surveillance leak
 
Alleged US security officials said NSA leaker, journalist should be 'disappeared' – report
 
© Autonomous Nonprofit Organization “TV-Novosti”, 2005–2013. All rights reserved.
 
**SlantRight Editor: Yeah, I know “RT” stands “Russia Today” which the Wikipedia link I attached to TV-Novosti explains. RT is funded by the Russian government. I am guessing the info herein is not diluted by the U.S. Mainstream Media love affair with President Obama.