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Tuesday, January 22, 2019

Introductory Thoughts on the Joyner Civil War Prophetic

John R. Houk
© January 22, 2019


On a personal level I have felt for some time American Left agitation against Conservatives not willing to toss out traditional American-Christian values would inevitably lead to a second American Civil War. Ergo, after receiving my alert from Rick Joyner’s MorningStar Ministries under the title “The Second American Revolutionary/Civil War - Part 1,” my interests were instantly piqued.

To those of you unaware of who Rick Joyner is, he is a Bible-Believing minister with an emphasis on Prophetic Ministry.

Now I realize many Mainline Christians view ministries that call themselves “Prophetic” are often viewed as a cult or heretic. There is good reason for that. Too many propagating the prophetic are flimflam individuals painting themselves as Christians yet are more interested in self-aggrandized wealth on the backs of the honest yet gullible attracted to experiencing the supernatural with the hope it is a move of God.

If the prophetic lines up with the Bible, it is legit. If the prophetic is extra-Biblical or derisive of the Bible, it is illegitimate, deceptive and in danger of being under demonic/devilish influence.

Then there are critics of the Prophetic who examine the foretelling nature to evaluate a percentage of accuracy. Too often this perspective is too ridged ignoring a symbolic picture some form of type or shadow of a difficult to interpret potentiality.

In my opinion, Rick Joyner is heavily in the symbolic picture prophetic. Part of the issue with the symbolic picture prophetic is pinning down a timeframe is difficult and might not be realized until some form of experiential occurrence. In this sense the prophetic is more an “aha moment” than a predictive point in time.

In a dream, Rick Joyner had a symbolic picture of prophetic history (perhaps in a panoramic view) pointing to Civil War. I look forward to part two to capture a more concrete perspective of Joyner’s dream.

JRH 1/22/19
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The Second American Revolutionary/Civil War


Rick Joyner Written Account of Titled Video
1/21/19

On December 14, 2018, I had a dream about various attacks coming upon our country. I was also shown those who would be sent out to counter each one.
    
In the dream, I was waiting in line to be sent to fight one of these enemies when I was approached by an angel and told that I had a different assignment. I was then taken to a large device that was showing “A History of The American Republic from Heaven’s Perspective.”
    
As I watched this, I saw that if I walked across the face of this device, to my right the times progressed toward the present. I decided to go to the end to see heaven’s perspective on what was happening now. When I came to the present, there was a sentence written in brilliant glowing golden letters: “The Second American Revolutionary/Civil War is inevitable, it is right, and it will be successful.”
    
From what I had seen as I walked to see the present, I understood why this Revolutionary/Civil War was “inevitable” and why it was “right.” As I stood pondering this, feeling that this might be the most important revelation I had ever been trusted with, I woke up. I felt that I had been given access to this history of “The American Republic” from heaven’s perspective, and that I would be going back to it for more understanding to help us prepare for what is to unfold.
    

We are already in the first stages of “The Second American Revolutionary/Civil War.” I know this leads to many questions, such as: What are the sides? What are the issues? What is right about it? Most important of all, what does success in this war look like from heaven’s perspective?
    
As the saying goes, “If we do not change our direction we will end up where we are headed.” We don’t have to be a prophet to see that we’re headed for civil war. Even so, before the dream I felt that we still had a long way to go before it became “inevitable.” In the dream, I saw that we had already crossed that line and it is now upon us, so we must change our strategy from trying to avoid it to winning it. To do this, we must have heaven’s view of what winning looks like.
    
From heaven’s perspective, we did not win the Revolutionary War. From heaven’s perspective, that war was about more than just gaining our independence—it was about liberty and a revolution in the government of men that would establish and maintain liberty and justice for all. Some significant things were accomplished in this war, but there were also some very basic ways that it fell far short of what heaven viewed as successful. If the Founders had truly believed that all men were created equal—what they declared to be the reason for seeking independence—then slavery would not have been possible and the Civil War would not have been inevitable.
    
If the Civil War had been successful according to heaven’s perspective, then there would not have been a need for such things as the Civil Rights Movement or many of the conflicts we are still fighting. The Union may have prevailed in crushing the rebellion and ended slavery, which was essential, but it did not prevail in a way that established justice and equality for all. We will not accomplish our purpose as a nation until there is justice and liberty for all. This is why both the Revolutionary War and Civil War must be fought again until there is a “successful” conclusion according to heaven’s perspective.  
    
In the American Republic, liberty and justice are not just skewed because of race, but they are also perverted by wealth, fame, politics, and other factors. If liberty and justice are distorted at all it will be in both directions. The wealthy may be able to afford lawyers that can get them out of just about anything, but their wealth can also make them targets. The same is true of the famous, the politically strong, etc.
    
Heaven does not expect anything on earth to be perfect in this age. In fact, the Scriptures state that even the best on the earth is but a shadow of the heavenly, and the best on the earth now will still be but a shadow of what is to come. However, when we are in the shadow of something, we are very close to the real. The American Republic is called to be much closer to liberty and the justice for all than we have yet attained. We are called to be an example of these to the nations, not an example of the dysfunction of government that we have now become.
    
We must also have heaven’s perspective on war. We tend to think of war as pitched battles between standing armies, but what is unfolding will not be like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War in that way. There are some parallels with those wars that will relate to our times, but many will not. However, this does not mean that what we are now facing will be easier. The whole world is entering the most trying times there has ever been. What we will be given to face them is a sure hope from above that the outcome will be “successful.”
    
For at least the first part of this year, I will be elaborating on the things I was shown in this dream.
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Published on Jan 21, 2019

Join Rick Joyner as he reveals a vision God gave him from heaven’s perspective on specific historical events of America. This vision has revealed what will happen in the future for the American Republic.


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Introductory Thoughts on the Joyner Civil War Prophetic
John R. Houk
© January 22, 2019
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The Second American Revolutionary/Civil War

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