Editor: This is the last response (I suspect Mr. Thomas will have something more to add) to a conversation to Steve Thomas on the Facebook Group Christian Zionism - Deconstructing the Myths - Biblically - One at a Time. The conversation was in relation to a SlantRight 2.0 cross post of Caroline Glick’s thoughts entitled, “Time for consequences.”
Responding to the very Valid Point of Steve Thomas
I Maintain Israel has a Right of Reprisal
John R. Houk
© May 8, 2014
The Jewish Tanakh is roughly the Christian Old Testament, right? God told the 12 tribes of Israel to cleanse the land promised to Abraham’s descendants because their sins had reached the point of no-return. Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of the point of no-return except the Sodomite and Gomorrahite region was so pitifully sinful that God could not find even 10 righteous people. God honored Abraham for making an escape for Lot and any family that believed the angels. God Himself destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
God told the Israelite tribes to possess the land promised to cleanse the region of sinful people and their sinful edifices and evidently even the livestock and gold was corrupted by being around the people because God told them not to keep the booty. Much to God’s displeasure the Canaanite people were not completely destroyed and the Israelites took booty.
Contrast that with the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah.
Under Mohammed’s direction which he claimed was under Allah’s direction, the neophyte Muslims raided, stole, booty, raped women and acquired slaves. THEN if there was no conversion to Islam or at least an absolute submission to Mohammed and Allah the order was mass execution. So the only survivors were slaves (mostly women), people who converted to Islam or people who were allowed to remain Jewish or Christian as long they did nothing to insult Mohammed, Allah and Islam in general. AND this practice is encoded theologically and politically in the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah as the example of the perfect man Mohammed.
Israelites were to ONLY conquer and claim the Promised Land.
Muslims are commanded to Jihad until the entire world is Muslim. AND specifically the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah are primarily disparaging against the Jews first and then Christians second as People of the Book of which Muslims are told is corrupted. So spare them only as long as they are submissive. In the end Muslims are taught that Jesus and the Mahdi will return to conclude what the Muslims were unable to – err – persuade Jews and Christians to do in the first place; i.e. convert or kill.
The Tanakh version of killing debauched ungodly people in one region at a certain to time is absolutely different than the Muslim mandate to offer conversion, submission or die universally and perpetually. AND this is why Arabs that call themselves Palestinians will never make the kind of peace with Israel that the foolish West and the foolish liberal Jews will never comprehend. All agreements in the Muslim mind is only temporary until a position of superiority is achieved to complete the mission.
I know that sounds rough and incomprehensible, but this is the primary reason I support Israeli reprisals for acts of terrorism committed by the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians.
By the way – in case you didn’t realize it there was no such thing as a Palestinian-Arab until after refugees were created by invading Arab armies trying to exterminate the newly independent Israel. After the miracle of Israeli victory in 1948, the invading nations refused to absorb the displaced Arabs into their nations. A displacement I might add that occurred because the invading Arab armies had warned the Arabs residing in the new Israel to stay out of the way so they would not get hurt. I don’t know about you but the odd were like 6 to 1 the invading Arabs would succeed in exterminating Jews; I would have collected what belongings I had to stay out the way too.
YET the miracle did happen! Israel overcame 6 to 1 odds and fought the Arab armies to a standstill. Israel’s only real defeat in that war of independence began in 1948 was the Arab Legion beating back Israeli forces in Judea-Samaria up to the eastern half of Jerusalem (which is where the ancient Jewish Quarter was located) ONLY by the direction of British army officers who had trained the (then) Transjordan Arab Legion. AND then a couple of years later, Transjordan formally and arbitrarily annexed Judea-Samaria after Jewish holy sites were totally desecrated and changed the name to the West Bank. Transjordan proper was on the East Bank of the Jordan River so old King Abdullah changed the name of his Kingdom from Transjordan to Jordan because he now possessed both banks of the Jordan River.
This displaced Arabs that congregated in Jordan’s West Bank were given a limited Jordanian citizenship. BUT those displaced Arabs were never given full citizenship rights. Why? Because they outnumbered the Bedouin population that was the core of King Abdullah’s (and late King Hussein’s) Arab Legion to retain his monarchy and rule. Now talk about an apartheid state, right?
Prior to 1948, Jews were more often referenced as Palestinians than Arabs in the region. After some agitation from Mufti of Jerusalem al-Hajj Amin al-Husayni (or other Arabic variations of the Mufti’s name), Arabs began to look for an identity to compete with Jews colonizing their homeland under the auspices of Zionism. Al-Husayni was a Jew-hater that even helped organize Muslims during WWII to ally with Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Final Solution for Jews. However the real impetus for an entity of Arabs that would call themselves Palestinians emerged because the Arab nations grew weary of losing to the little sliver of land known as Israel. So they had an Arab League meeting in Cairo and endorsed the Egyptian born Yasser Arafat to lead an umbrella terrorist organization known as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). This is when the descendants of 1948 Arab refugees created by invading Arab nations began to create the myth of a Palestinian people. That Cairo meeting took place in 1964 three years before the Arab nations tried again to exterminate Israel and lost. Israel regained Judea-Samaria stolen by Jordan. Jordan would not let their West Bank citizens move to the East Bank because the Hashemite royal family of Jordan did not desire to lose their monarchy. Actually the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians that were in the East Bank Jordan proper were expelled militarily for fear Yasser Arafat would execute a coup.
The PLO roughly transformed into the Palestinian Authority (PA) with terrorist weary Western nations and terrorist weary liberal Jews that deluded themselves that giving land to a Jew-hating people would bring peace between little Israel and the Muslim-Arab nations. As I explained earlier that will never occur as long as Muslims are faithful to the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah with Israel being exterminated and the Jews driven into the sea in another modern day Holocaust.
There is nothing that will convince me that nothing short of Israel exercising their military prowess will preserve the Jewish Nation of Israel.