John R. Houk
© August 3, 2014
Bryan originally commented to a post on my NCCR blog entitled, “The New Marxist Infiltration.” I originally posted this on April 1, 2013 (yep April Fool’s Day). Commenter Bryan began posting his two cents on July 18, 2014. We have interacted confrontationally through his last comment (as far as of this post) on July 29, 2014. To read all the comments go to the original post. I am responding starting with selected quotes from Bryan’s last comment. Evidently Bryan has grown weary of commenting because the reply button on his last comment is unavailable. So I am actually posting this to appear on his July 24, 2014 comment. If you go to NCCR to see my reply it may seem a bit out of place.
Bryan:
“A true Left-Wing propagandist, you say? Where did you deduce that from? “
John:
The answer is simple: It is true.
Bryan:
“I haven’t been writing any propaganda here, nor am I the one with a pseudo-political blog. All I have done is point out that your opinions are simply being rehashed from sources that are biased, prejudiced, and therefore unreliable, and I have expressed how damaging such blind obedience can be. In fact, I haven’t been preaching any specific religion or political ideology. For all you know, I might be a conservative, a Republican and/or a Christian myself, but your blatant and inexcusable ignorance have conditioned you into assuming what I am, and what my motivations are, without checking your facts; the very thing that I accused you of in writing this article.”
John:
Actually my opinions are my own. What you call “rehashed” I call agreement. If you don’t agree with me I don’t have a problem with that. The 1st Amendment definitely provides you that right. You claim haven’t been “preaching,” yet my so-called “blatant ignorance” is derived from your own words written in your first criticism:
“People like you really give Christians and conservative voters a bad name. You’re so preoccupied with trying to frighten the uninformed; using misinterpreted information, taken out of context, in an attempt to “factualize” your opinions and manipulate people into your corner. You, like so many, just want everyone to share your points of view, and any who object or differ in their opinions, are labeled as un-American, Marxist sympathizers, or atheistic, baby-killing, sinners seeking to repress your religious rights–despite the Christian Right’s use of lobbyists and manipulation of the Supreme Court to force everyone to comply with their values whether everyone agrees with them or not. Frankly, I find such blatantly fascist thinking to be far more damaging to society than a few Socialistic programs designed to improve the country as a whole which are not centered around simply pleasing Christians. The Bible is not the only book in the world, and it would behoove you and your readers to rely on more than a religious tome for their opinions.”
In your first criticism you displayed your point on the political spectrum the accusation of “… uninformed ; using misinterpreted information” certainly demonstrates you are not a Conservative and not a Bible believing Christian. Such accusations with the claim that if the source is Conservative then it is erroneous, is simply an ad hominem to misdirect readers to believe non-Conservative sources are reliable. Looking at the continuous lies and obfuscation of investigation from Obama simply proves that Conservative data is more reliable just not convenient for Leftist idealists. And trust me if Conservative and Christian Right activists didn’t lobby, that would leave Congress and the Courts to listen to Left Wing lobbyists who desire to transform America away from Constitutional Originalism and the influence of Christianity in America’s history and Founding. If you are a Biblical Christian the Bible is the ONLY book. Yep, that is my opinion; nevertheless there are many in agreement with me. Just like there are Muslims who swear by the Quran or Left Wingers influenced (wittingly or unwittingly) by “Das Kapital”.
Bryan:
“And additionally, you have evaded backing up your opinions by trying to distract me with personal attacks. In my experience, this is the juvenile and desperate tactic of one who is incapable of articulating their own convictions, because, in truth, they have none. Instead, you have handed over the yoke of your intellect and joined the sheep; relying on being given your opinions instead of ruminating objectively and forming your own conclusions.”
John:
Hmmm… I find it interesting that you find my initial comment to your first comment as “personal attack”:
“Spoken like a true Left Wing propagandist that can’t accept reality in favor of the myth of Marxist Utopianism. Never believe the disinformation of Left oriented blogs, atheist pundits, Christian-haters and their ilk. Bryan just because it is Conservative does not mean it is not scholarly.”
Although I didn’t use your words, “…un-American, Marxist sympathizers, or atheistic, baby-killing, sinners…” I do concur that critics of American Exceptionalism, political ideologies Left of Center, atheists and baby-killers (i.e. pro-abortion people) represent the opposite of the American Way. Here’s some good old fashioned infantile non-intellectualism for you – think the man of steel: Truth, Justice and the American Way. You can only regard this as a personal attack if you good with anti-Americanism, Marxist-Socialist principle, atheism, abortionists and people that justify a non-Biblical lifestyle. If you are good with that then I guess I personally attacked you. I am a fan of objectivity but I am a larger fan of Grace by Faith. “Grace by Faith” is absolutely subjective and places one’s belief system on what is unseen (not objectively provable) than that which is seen (objective provable evidence). I have formed my conclusions from ruminating on God’s Word in the Holy Bible. I realize objectively you consider that my opinion; nonetheless I consider the Bible Truth and Reality. Here’s some blind faith slavery for you to ruminate on (sorry, can’t help it):
8 This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success. (Joshua 1: 8 NKJV)
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5: 17-19 NKJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1: 1-5, 14 NKJV)
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”[b]
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, (Romans 1: 16-22 NKJV)
16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal. (2 Corinthians 4: 16-18 NKJV)
Bryan if I have handed over the yoke of my intellect and joined the sheep, I am good with that. I am one of the sheep that has chosen to follow the Good Shepherd:
1 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me[a] are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. (John 10: 1-10 NKJV – but really should read entire chapter)
Bryan:
“Like your blissful peers, your only recourse, when confronted with dissension, is to lash out in an effort to deviate from the point. Thus, maintiaining [sic] (in your own mind, anyway) that you hold the high ground; that you are right and the other is wrong. This is nothing but a tiresome exercise in futility, and one which I refuse to take any more part in.
I hope that one day you will mature and be able to think for yourself, but until then, “baa-baa””
John:
Come on Bryan … Talk about deviating from the point and presenting a personal attack. This is what I meant by Left Wing propaganda. Your refutation is a futility in disinformation followed by the classic Liberal “… I refuse to take any more part in.” Followed by your closing sentence calling immature because I see more facts in Conservative talking points and more truth in Christ finishing with the classic sheeple pejorative of “baa-baa”.
Now if that isn’t the height of Left Wing hypocrisy then I will take the moral high ground and pray for you.
JRH 8/3/14
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