Thursday, October 24, 2013

Jewish Temples Location can be a Game Changer?

John R. Houk
© October 24, 2013

WorldNetDaily (WND) is pushing a documentary  by Ken Klein in which it is hinted that the place the world calls the Temple Mount is not the location of where the last two Jewish Temples had existed. I haven’t seen the documentary thus I cannot rightfully concur or disagree with the Klein documentary.

Frankly I am not on board with the supposition that the original location of the Jewish Temples and the place to construct the third Jewish Temple is south of what is called the Western Wall which most scholars believe is a surviving wall of Herod’s Temple (which is a refurbished Zerubbabel’s Temple) left after Roman Emperor (Caesar) Titus destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

Klein’s documentary is interesting because there are some implications for Jews and the Jewish State if Klein is correct. You have to understand the two heathen Mosques on the Temple Mount is one of many sources for Jewish Israel’s conflict with the rest of the Muslim Middle East. It means the Western Wall is not a wall of the last Temple. This means Christian Zionists and Conservative minded Jewish activists do not have to support the concept of removing the two Mosques built on what is called the Temple Mount. Removing the Mosques would immediately cause a violent outrage among Muslims and Politically Correct Leftist Multiculturalists. AND so it means moving forward with the construction of a Third Jewish Temple can be undertaken without an immediate spark for the Muslim world to be united to destroy Israel.

Of course you have to realize that Jewish/Muslim heritage conflicts surrounding the Temple Mount is only one such cause for Muslim’s to desire the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews in their ancestral homeland. The primary cause is simply Islamic Supremacism and the encoded Jew-hatred of the Quran, Hadith and Sira and the Islamic belief that once a non-Muslim land is conquered it is forever to remain Islamic. This was the problem with Muslims when early Christian Crusaders dislodged Muslim suzerainty of the Holy Land and is the current problem Muslims have with Jews controlling their own land that was conquered by Muslim armies from Christian Byzantines in the early 7th century.

So even if the Klein documentary’s theory on the location on the Jewish Temples is proven correct (which I have doubts still) and a Third Jewish Temple is built, ultimately Jew-hatred will still compel Muslim nations to invade Israel. Below is most of the email sent by WND:

A Weapon of Mass Destruction
New documentary reveals truth about the "Temple Mount"

By WND Email Alert
Sent: 10/22/2013 5:34 PM

Almost one half the world's population of 7 billion people is either Muslim, Jewish, or Christian. And each is deeply passionate, and religiously invested in a 35 acre parcel of land in Jerusalem called the "Temple Mount."

The Muslims fiercely believe their prophet Mohammed left his footprints on the rock sitting underneath the Dome of the Rock shrine; the last remaining evidence of his human existence, before he ascended into heaven. The Jews believe the Temple Mount precinct is the very site of their former two temples and will once again be the site of their predicted third temple. The Christians are deeply invested because their prophets have predicted that Jesus will walk through the sealed "eastern gate" and then sit down beginning His Millennium reign from the Jews rebuilt third temple on the "Temple Mount."

None of these three monotheistic religions can possibly let go of their deeply seated passions connected to this sacred real estate.

But now there is absolute proof; that this is not the actual site, and the unprecedented film, "
Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews" proves this fact conclusively with 100% accuracy.

Watch the official trailer here:

And while these three religions represent not quite one half of the world’s population, the inhabitants of the whole planet are also deeply affected by this 35 acre controversial piece of land.

One would think either Washington D.C. or London or Rome, the very locations of political, financial and religious power and authority would far outdistance little ole Jerusalem in world importance, influence, and significance; but no, not even close.

Jerusalem was; and still is, the center of the Earth, and that is because God chose Jerusalem to be the site where He would place His Name. He magnified Jerusalem's importance by placing His very presence (His Shekinah Glory) in the Temple underscoring His sovereign choice for His Name on this planet. But ...currently it does not seem to be the case, and the world community is totally unaware, indifferent and could hardly care less.

Nevertheless; ...the implications of this new film;

"Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews"

are indeed monumental...for it will not only shake the modern day Christian prophecy teachers to their core, but it could change the history and political outcome of the entire middle east.

The Jews, who were appointed to be custodians of God's "Shekinah" Presence, temporarily forfeited the honor. Yet, providence has turned, and they are once again back in their land; after 2000 years of banishment, and now preparing for their third temple, and thus the return of the "Shekinah Presence."

These people; with their unprecedented history, are tenaciously committed to the rebuilding of their third temple. They whole heatedly believe God will once again bring His Glory back into their third Temple, thus bringing peace to the earth.

But... under these current dynamics what can allow for the building of the third temple? The answer is...nothing!

Watch the second trailer for "
Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews
" below:

Currently...we are presently witnessing another fanciful round of peace talks which actually began in 1948, but will once again pitifully fail. This time; lead by Secretary of State John Kerry, they will prove to be futile, and insignificant. It reminds one of the ridiculous efforts of the United States to convince the Japanese to surrender at the end of World War 2.

...But it took a weapon of mass destruction to end WW2.

And it will take another type of "weapon of mass destruction" to end the impasse in the middle east...

...and most specifically with regard to the "Temple Mount" in order to bring an end to the untenable and impossible conundrum that has a choke hold and blinded all the peoples of the earth.

It will not be a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon, but a weapon that is mighty in bringing down strongholds in people’s minds; "a spiritual weapon of mass destruction."

Deeply imbedded traditional religious views based upon fanciful myths, legends, folklore and false histories must be brought down, and it will take a spiritual weapon to bring this to pass.

"For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds, casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Cor 10:1-6

This new film "Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews" is that weapon, and that is why it is more than just another DVD.

It is mighty through God to the pulling down of stubborn and persistent strong holds, and the casting down of vain imaginations and baseless religious traditions. It's unprecedented claims are built on the solid proofs of archeological evidence, eye witness accounts, and co-oberating biblical texts.

You will visit all the sights and see for yourself along with vivid CG animations, re-enactments and expert commentary the truth that can finally be told.

This film promises to alter your world view, reversing the disturbing political impasse of the middle east, as it conclusively and convincingly proves and demonstrates the actual site for the Jews 3rd temple; the residence of God's Name and His Physical Presence.

Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews" is beyond an historic film, it is a prophecy of what is to come...

"A Spiritual Weapon of Mass Destruction."

Watch all six of the trailers here:
[Blog Editor: The above link takes you to the WND Superstore for the documentary which is where all six trailers are located.]

Annoyingly the WND byline that caught my attention is “A Weapon of Mass Destruction”. That WMD that is implied to destroy Israel’s enemies is the video documentary. Really though the documentary is a controversial theory that definitely is in the minority opinion among Western Christians and Jews.

The Temple Mount and Eretz Israel Faithful Movement – Jerusalem puts forth some theories on the location of the Jewish Temples. Principally the location they push is the majority position of the Temple Mount location:

The Location of the Temple and the Holy of Holies on the Temple Mount:
The Present Dome of the Rock is the Location of the Temple
The Rock Which is Under the Dome of the Rock is the Location of the Holy of Holies

1,932 years after the destruction of the Second Temple, there are various theories as to the location of the Temple and the Holy of Holies. Some believe that the Temple was located north of the Dome of the Rock while others believe that it was south of the Dome of the Rock. Some of these theories are an attempt at compromise because of the actual situation that the rock is today located under the Dome of the Rock and because of a fear that the removal of the Dome of the Rock and the building of the Temple on this place could cause World War III. These theories do not take into account the fact that no compromise can be made with the Word of Gd Who assigned the location of the Temple and showed it in prophecy to King David.

The Third Temple can only be built on the same location which the Gd of Israel indicated to King David in prophecy and where the First and Second Temples were built. The Third Temple and the Holy of Holies cannot be relocated by even one centimeter to the north or south. Only Gd controls war and peace and the destiny of Israel. There is no doubt that Gd is testing Israel today on the Temple Mount, which is the key place in the world. Gd expects Israel to rebuild His house on the correct position on the Temple Mount with no fear of the Moslem enemy which, at the end of the seventh century CE, built the Dome of the Rock on the most holy place of the Gd and people of Israel and desecrated the hill of Gd and revolted against the Word of Gd. Gd promised the people of Israel that in the endtimes He would redeem His holy hill and Jerusalem together with the people and land of Israel and He would protect them and fight for them against the enemies who would try to prevent His prophetic endtime plans for Israel.

The conclusion that I immediately want to place before you and for which I will later bring the evidence is that the location of the Temple is in the same location as that of the present Dome of the Rock and that the rock itself is the rock which was in the Holy of Holies and on which the Ark of the Covenant was situated in the First Temple. I will also show that Rabbi Shlomo Goren, z''l, who was the Chief Rabbi of the Israeli Defence Force during the Six Day War and later became the Chief Rabbi of Israel, brought a unit of military engineers to the Temple Mount immediately after the war. They surveyed all the Temple Mount according to the Torah, the Mishnah and the Talmud and other sources. His conclusion was that the rock was the rock on which was situated the altar. However, he did not doubt that the rock was in the location of the Temple and that the Dome of the Rock is located there.

There are other theories on the location of the Temple. One, that of Dr. Asher Kaufman, locates the Temple north of the Dome of the Rock and states that the Dome of the Spirits is on the rock. Another theory, that of architect Tuvya Sagiv, locates the Temple south of the Dome of the Rock. Neither of these people are archaeologists.

In the following article I will bring evidence that will show that the Dome of the Rock is located on the site of the First and Second Temples and that the rock under the Dome of the Rock was in the Holy of Holies.

The importance of identifying the real rock that was in the Holy of Holies is that the size of the Temple is very well known and it is thus possible to set its lines from the position of the rock. One of the most important modern researchers and experts of the Temple Mount and the Temple is Rabbi Zalman Menachem Koren. We shall do our best to present the evidence from READ THE REST

Yeah I’m not going to do anything to fix the ‘question mark’ punctuation. So essentially the theory runs for Jewish Temple locations north of Dome of the Rock, South of Dome of the Rock and right smack on the Dome of the Rock.

If my guesser is working well I believe Klein is pointing to the south of the Dome of the Rock Mosque. That theory runs like this:

New Evidence for the Site of the Temple in Jerusalem
(The Complete Abridged Edition of Dr. Martin’s Temple Book Begins After the Two Reviews Presented Below)

Temple Update Article
Expanded Internet Edition - December 12, 2000

“Two Academic Reviews of my New Research in the Book "The Temples that Jerusalem Forgot."

* The first is from: Prof. James D. Tabor, Dept. of Religious Studies, The University of North Carolina at Charlotte, Charlotte, NC 28223. Given in May, 2000.

"When I first read of Ernest L. Martin's thesis that both the 1st and 2nd Jewish Temples, those of Solomon and Herod, were located south of the presently accepted Dome of the Rock location--down in the area of the ancient City of David over the Ophel spring, my reaction was short and to the point--impossible, preposterous!! Having now read his arguments I am convinced this thesis, however revolutionary and outlandish it first appears, deserves careful, academic and critical consideration and evaluation. I am not yet convinced that Martin has ironed out all the problems or handled all the potential objections, yet he has set forth a case that should be heard. His arguments regarding the size of the Fortress Antonia, based on Josephus and other evidence we have about Roman military encampments, must be addressed. He also makes a most compelling argument based on Luke, writing a decade or so after the 70 C.E. destruction, and obviously wanting to report on the lips of Jesus an accurate prediction of the state of things regarding "not one stone left upon another" in the post-War city of Jerusalem. Historians of the Byzantine, Islamic, and Crusader periods are more qualified to judge his arguments from subsequent epochs, however, my initial reading of Martin's presentation has left me with the same impression--all of this evidence needs to be reexamined in the light of this radical proposal. Martin's thesis is so bold, so utterly non-conventional, and so potentially upsetting, radically altering central aspects of the theological, historical, cultural, and political understanding of Jerusalem and its holy places, it should not be ignored. I hope Martin's book will begin a most interesting debate and critical discussion of all relevant issues."
* The second is from: Dr. Michael P. Germano, Editor, Professor Emeritus Ambassador University, a graduate of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and who holds earned doctorates from the University of Southern California and the University of La Verne. He has completed post-graduate study in anthropology, archaeology, and theology at Southern Methodist University and Texas A&M University at College Station in Texas. You can contact him at PO Box 2494 Cullowhee, NC 28723-2494. It is my pleasure to recommend his excellent BibArch Web Site that explores the world of biblical archaeology. It is fully scholarly and is at]. Given in May, 2000.

"This is an unexpected, exceptional analysis of the historical and archaeological data of the Temples of Jerusalem. This new explanation of the venue of the First and Second Temples provides the solution to heretofore incongruous statements in Josephus with the evidence of the biblical and archaeological records. Not only a work of significant scholarly impact it may well serve as the awaited stimulus for the building of Jerusalem's Third Temple by shifting our collective focus from the Haram esh-Sharif to the area of the Gihon Spring."

[ASK Editor] Note: This article contains many endnotes. These are noted within the text as superscript numbers 1 . Simply click on the number to read the endnote. Then use the browser BACK button to return to where you were in the article. - webmaster.

A new and accurate evaluation is essential regarding the site of the former Temples in Jerusalem. Neither the Dome of the Rock near the center of the Haram esh-Sharif in Jerusalem, nor the Al Aqsa Mosque occupying the southern side of the Haram (nor ANY area within the four walls of that Haram) was the real spot in Jerusalem where the holy Temples of God were located. Biblical and literary accounts dogmatically place the site of all the Temples over the Gihon Spring just north of the ancient City of David (Zion) and on the southeastern ridge of Jerusalem. All the present antagonists fighting in Jerusalem over the Temple site are warring over (and for) the wrong place. They need to turn their swords and guns into plowshares.

The first source to discover the true site of the Temples in Jerusalem is to read the biblical descriptions about the location of Mount Zion because in the Holy Scriptures the term "Mount Zion" in many contexts is synonymous with the site of the Temples. Any modern map of Jerusalem will correctly indicate the true location of the original Mount Zion (also called the City of David). Zion was situated at the southern end of the southeastern ridge of Jerusalem. This is the section of the city that Josephus (the Jewish historian of the first century) called "the Lower City." The fact that the original "Zion" was described by Josephus as "the Lower City" became a geographical enigma to early scholars since the Bible itself consistently described "Zion" as a high and eminent place. How could something "high" be legitimately called "low"? 1 This misunderstanding about the former eminence of the southeast ridge was the first confusion that caused even religious authorities to lose the true site of "Mount Zion" and also the location of the Temples. But historical and biblical evidence reviewed and analyzed between the years 1875 and 1885 C.E. 2 finally indicated that the southeast ridge was truly the original Zion.

It was the indefatigable efforts of W. F. Birch in England with his numerous articles in the Palestine Exploration Fund Quarterly over that decade (along with the discovery in 1880 C.E. of the Hezekiahan inscription about the construction of the tunnel from the Gihon Spring to the southern end of the southeast ridge) that finally settled the controversy over the true location of "Zion." It was then determined by the scholarly world that the former designation of the southwest hill in Jerusalem as "Zion" (what was written in Josephus as the "City of David" being located in the "Upper City") was not the correct evaluation for the original site of "Zion." So, the world finally learned (correctly so) that the southeast ridge was the actual site of "Mount Zion" (the true City of David) and that Jerusalem was built in ancient times around and over the Gihon Spring in order to have water from the only spring within a radius of five miles of the city. This correction was a major step in the right direction in restoring true geographical parameters to Jerusalem. Unfortunately, when the scholars properly returned "Mount Zion" to the southeast ridge, the Temple location was not considered an issue in the matter. They continued to accept that somewhere within the Haram esh-Sharif was the Temple site. This was in spite of the fact that many texts in the Holy Scriptures identified "Zion" as equivalent to the "Temple." And, the Bible even indicated that the Temple was abutting to the northern side of the "City of David." This should have been a significant clue to the nineteenth century scholars that the original Temples had to be positioned very near the "City of David." on the southeast ridge, but those historians failed to make the needed correction. They retained the site of the Temple as being about 1000 feet to the north of the Gihon Spring and that it was once located within the confines of the Haram esh-Sharif. This region had become the popular Temple site since the period of the Crusades (by Christian, Muslim and Jewish authorities). 3 The actual location of all the Temples, however, was over the Gihon Spring immediately to the north of (and abutting to) the City of David. When the Temples are rightly placed at that site, the biblical and historical accounts about "Mount Zion" being equivalent to the "Temple Mount" consistently make sense.

The Importance of the Gihon Spring

The Gihon Spring is the only spring within the city limits of Jerusalem. We have the eyewitness account of a person from Egypt named Aristeas who viewed the Temple in about 285 B.C.E. He stated quite categorically that the Temple was located over an inexhaustible spring that welled up within the interior part of the Temple.  4 About 400 years later the Roman historian Tacitus gave another reference that the Temple at Jerusalem had within its precincts a natural spring of water that issued from its interior.  5 These two references are describing the Gihon Spring (the sole spring of water in Jerusalem). It was because of the strategic location of this single spring that the original Canaanite cities of "Migdol Edar" and "Jebus" were built over and around that water source before the time of King David. That sole water source was the only reason for the existence of a city being built at that spot.

The Gihon Spring is located even today at the base of what was called the "Ophel" (a swelling of the earth in the form of a small mountain dome) once situated just to the north and abutting to "Mount Zion" (the City of David). The Ophel Mound was close to the City of David. David soon began to fill in the area between the two summits with dirt and stones (calling it the Millo or "fill in") to make a single high level area on which to build his city and after his death the Temple. 6 David’s son Solomon completed the READ THE REST

The above essay is from 2000 and is from Dr. Ernest L. Martin’s book “The Temples that Jerusalem Forgot”. You should check out an essay from Dr. Martin entitled “The Temple Mount and Fort Antonia” which posits that the Western Wall considered part of the wall of Herod’s Temple is actually a wall from a Roman fortress called Antonia. Fort Antonia is thought to overlook Herod’s Temple. Martin believes Titus left this structure up as a tribute to Roman architecture after the total destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD. As I wrote above I have not seen Klein’s documentary. If Klein was smart he used some of Dr. Martin’s data to prove his point. Dr. Martin is very convincing with his academic logic but I still have a gut feeling the two Jewish Temples were actually located on the Temple Mount.

JRH 10/24/13

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